Re: Driving students into science is a fool’s errand
In most cases, Industries like to take almost no responsibility to train its scientific/technical manpower. On top of that, They are the main beneficiaries for distorting the supply-demand curve at the...
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As someone working in science education, this article misses the point entirely. Macilwain conflates industry people spouting about workforce shortages with people who actually seriously work in...
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Katherine: The USA needs a massive amount of publicly funded science education for its citizens, period. So that people understand what their taxes are spent on, and how it improves their lives. We...
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The number of US lawmakers and officials who lack any scientific understanding, and the serious consequences of their policies for science and society as whole, is sufficient grounds alone to increase...
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Mr. Macilwain notes that "[businessmen] stand up and bemoan the alleged failure of the education system to produce the science and technology 'skills' that [their companies require]"...and then walks...
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President Obama feels that the talented people does not go for basic research - and that is the crux of all the problems of world. (If you want to fix the world -fix the world-science first). So these...
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Making funds available for science education is not the same as driving people into science. Last time I checked, the US or the UK were not a totalitarian states where this sort of thing could be done....
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And teaching kids to read distorts the labour market for people who can read, creating an oversupply of those who can read, and driving down the wages of those who can already read. The point is that...
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I agree with the article. From my class of 30 students of engineering at a top university, only three went into industry (none directly using the subject we had learnt), because the pay offered was...
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Chinese government also encourages STEM subjects and native investigators trained in USA or Europe are popularly welcomed. But most parents do not wish their children (each couple only ONE child due to...
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It will be unfair to club all STEM jobs in the same bracket. Recent house judiciary committee bill for The STEM Jobs Act (H.R. 6429) excludes biology. Proposed shortage of manpower is and/or will be...
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B. B. Goel, I have to differ with you about it being just biologists who are in over-supply. With little effort, I can think of three good engineers immediately. These are people who had been...
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@ Robert Edwards. I am not sure if your friend would have been a "better health service manager if he had studied biology and maths". You can keep in mind that there were enough unemployed biology...
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Few months ago I read an nice article in the most prestigious journal in India that sums it up all- India needs to be cautious while following the American model of higher education and research . The...
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To add to the point, the highly paid positions tend to be administrative and not STEM-based. I personally know at least half a dozen people with a STEM degree who, after working in the industry for...
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This is an odd editorial. The author claims that industry doesn't need STEM majors, not because they say they don't, because rather because they say they *do*, and he doesn't believe them. Why not? I...
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I am struggling to see the fundamental problem with encouraging scientific literacy amongst an increasing proportion of US society. Perhaps we should look at why we value scientific thinking and...
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There is an analogous situation with immigration. The big technology companies all want to loosen restrictions on immigration because they say there is a shortage of STEM people and they need to bring...
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Agreed. the primary mission of STEM eduation should be to enhance the level of scientific thinking and discussion in the general population. I also agree that STEM empolyment statements by both those...
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Saying that STEM education is aimed to increase STEM college enrolments means missing the point. Use science education as a tool to equip students with life skills: science is a gateway to literacy, a...
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Clearly, spending $3 billion to increase basic scientific literacy is money well spent. But the author has a point: restricting supply of job candidates does boost salaries, a lot! The case of medical...
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First, the disclaimer: I am not, as I begin this comment, taking a position either in support of or against that of Mr. Macilwaine.Now on to the comments of Mr. Loladze. Firstly, on what basis do you...
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As many commenters shrewdly observed, scientific literacy, irrespective of its effect on the labor market, has numerous benefits to a democratic society at large, including more astute voters. The US...
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It probably isn't necessary for the US Government to fund a multitude of programmes to the tune of $3 billion, and opting to consolidate their efforts is sensible given the economic climate. However,...
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You failed to address my point: what size benefit (with regard to scientific literacy) makes $3 billion "money well spent"?If the money is spent, but no measurable, or some obviously insignificant,...
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